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Old 14th April 2010, 10:43 AM
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5 yr old saint at local Shelter

Hey guys, my friend works at a local shelter and a few weeks ago a 5 year old Saint came in. She had been neglected her entire 5 years, knows nothing of affection. My friend told me she would be perfect for us. After weeks of trying to get down to the shelter because of insane flooding here we finally made it down. The dog is wicked sweet. Whenever I call her she starts wagging her tail and goes into this deep woof. She allowed us to pet her and all over but she didn't like when one of the volunteers put her face in the dogs face. Our next step was to bring in our dogs so we first introduce Coop. Coop is so good with other dogs, I knew she would like Coop and he would like her. They sniffed each other and then she just plopped down. Next was Austin and Shelby. They are forever wanting to play so I didn't know how the Saint would feel about that. Austin was great with her, sniffed her and then played with Coop. Shelby, on the other hand, all she did was bark at her, she tried to sniff her but the volunteers didn't want to get them too close together. I didn't know if that was a good thing or not. I was told Shelby was protecting her pack and that she was the dominant one of the group. Shelby is so not dominant. They chase her around the house and she hides behind furniture, far from dominant bahavior, I would think? Anyways, while we were trying to figure this out, I go back to the shelter to try and make another appointment to come in with Shelby(I was told to come back with just her) and there was a woman and her husband there looking at the dog. The wife was such a you know what!!!! Didn't know how to hold a lead, never had a dog but she wanted the dog! The head of the shelter said to this woman another couple was interested and she pointed at me. The wife proceeds to tell me I don't NEED the dog because I already have a Berner. I was not amused! This woman ends up running to her vet that day and gets her cat a rabies vaccine and basically steals the dog away from us. For some reason, I knew the dog would be back, this woman had no clue! Next day, I get a call that the dog is back! I knew it. They brought this dog to the groomer, to the vet and had friends over to visit with the dog. The dog ended up biting the husband and supposedly chased the wife through the entire house until she threw herself behind a door. She
Made the dog sound Like Cujo.
Yesterday I went to visit the dog again and she's in a certain room because she bit this man so I could only interact with her through the cage but she was so happy and her tail was going and everything. My questions are: how do I try to proceed with Shelby in order to try to rescue this dog? I don't think the dog is mean at all, I think this couple overloaded the dog on the first day. Another woman at the shelter told me to love unselfishly and that it will never work with Shelby. Just thought I'd get some opinions from you guys!
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Old 14th April 2010, 11:01 AM
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Not that I know much (I'm learning as I go) but this dog sounds an awful lot like my Xena! Jekyll and Hyde...not quite sure how to act...fearful/fear biting...aggression. You (like I am now) would probably have to take this dog through some serious behavior modification. Just my humble opinion based on the striking similarity to my situation but I'm sure that those more knowledgeable than I (which is practically everybody) will weigh in on this.
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Old 14th April 2010, 11:01 AM
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Why don't you contact the New England Saint Bernard Club and get them involved:
http://nesbc.org/

I know they have a rescue in Connecticut that could probably at least do a professional assessment of the dog before you make any definite decision to take it. And they might want to get it out of the shelter and see about doing some rehab with it before rehoming. If there is actually a bite report on the dog, this may need to happen...

Do you know why the dog was brought to the shelter to begin with?
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Old 14th April 2010, 11:31 AM
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Animal control was called because the dog was being neglected. She's so sad, it's heartbreaking. This couple that adopted her and then brought her back left her outside the entire night because they, "feared for their lives." Insane!

Also, I was told animal control was called a few times and they checked on the dog and then the couple that originally owned the dog, finally surrendered her.

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Old 14th April 2010, 12:28 PM
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The shelters here don't let people take animals home the same day. You have to fill out an application, and then they do home checks. It's too bad that isn't the norm.
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Old 14th April 2010, 12:41 PM
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I agree, these people filled out the application, they checked vet references and that was it! I'm going to drive over there again today and see what's up with the dog. I guess she's in quarantine because she bit that crazy womans husband. I'm going to ask the guy who runs the shelter if I can call St Bernard club like Martha suggested and have someone come on out!

Great idea Martha
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Old 14th April 2010, 01:18 PM
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I agree with Martha - get the Saint club involved and have her assessed by someone who knows the breed very well. Likely the shelter will want that done before they'd consider adopting her out due to the bite incident. If she tests out fine you might ask them if you could visit her a couple of times first to walk her and interact with her in a controlled way. Then bring in Shelby but bring someone with you that can help if you don't think the volunteers there have a clue about how to safely introduce two female dogs. I'd take it very slow and make sure this is the right situation for this dog and for your present pack.

Even after months together I still don't leave my two female dogs home alone together. When we go out we make sure they are seperated just to play it safe.
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Old 14th April 2010, 01:45 PM
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I'm going over there in a hour and see what they have to say. The man that runs the shelter is really nice and an animal lover for sure so I'm sure he will be open to the idea.

What is the deal with female dogs? Does everyone consider them more difficult than males?
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Old 14th April 2010, 01:49 PM
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Ever heard the expression: Bitch Fight???
There's a reason for that wording!!
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Old 14th April 2010, 01:56 PM
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It just seems that male dogs might not like each other but they have a tiff and get over it or just go on to ignore each other pretty much. Female dogs seem to hold a grudge and once they don't like each other, it's not so easy to change their minds. (kinda like humans really )
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Old 14th April 2010, 05:13 PM
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I went over to the shelter and the man that runs the shelter left for the day and his second in command, was there and I wasn't getting anywhere with her. She wouldn't even let me go in the back and see the dog. I'm going to go over tomorrow
and see if I can get permission for someone to come over and evaluate the dog. Tune in tomorrow
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Old 14th April 2010, 05:14 PM
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I would just call the NESBC and tell them what's going on. They've most likely had previous experience in situations like this and can get going on helping her.
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Old 15th April 2010, 06:11 PM
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What a couple of idjits! I'm sure they pushed and wanted her to be perfect the first day.

I hope you can get to see the dog tomorrow. Don't give up, you may be this dogs only hope!
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Old 15th April 2010, 06:37 PM
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Ok, here's the update: I sent my fiancée over there today to see if he could get somewhere with the second in command, no luck. Ralphie said this woman is stone cold. The main man is gonna be at the shelter tomorrow, he supposedly is a real dog person and will understand. I would so take this dog in a heartbeat, I just want to make sure she will get along with my girl! Tune in again tomorrow
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Old 20th April 2010, 09:17 AM
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Ok, so I had emailed over to the NESBC. They had a page of contacts and I chose a man that lived in a city in Conn that's really close to RI. I still haven't heard back. The dog is still at the shelter, we have been there everyday to see her but they won't allow her out of her area because of the biting incident. She can't be adopted until her 10 day period because of the biting is over. Ralphie is over there now trying to convince them to take her for a walk.
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