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Old 3rd February 2011, 02:30 PM
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so, a friend's friend got in touch w/ me on facebook about her dog needing to be rehomed... it's a very sad situation & feel horrible for all involved.

they rescued the dog a lil over a yr ago from rescue called.. almost home(no clue, still need to look them up), his name is levon & is now about 3.5yrs old.. she's not sure if he's pit or lab x w/ the corso. he looks pit to me. he weighs about 84lbs, good w/ other dogs.. her sisters have a presa() & cockapoo. not sure about cats, the foster said yes, but personally she wouldn't know.

here's the situation.. he bit her 5yr old daughter & she needed stitches. there has been signs of aggression in the past too just with her one daughter--she has 2 other older children. evidently, the dog will lick her face, but as soon as she gets in the dog's face he snaps... now, he's fine w/ everyone else in the house kissing him in the face ect..

i was told she worked w/ a trainer.. on both the dog & child... having the child be the only one to feed/treats ect.. but the lil girl just doesn't listen & is feerless accourding to the mom & refuses to stay out of levon's face.
i asked about the rescue taking him back.. she said the lady has no room, she even said she'd see if there was another dog more compatible w/ her family she's adopt it to levon could go back, she said no.. if you have to put him down, just make sure it's at your vet's so he's more relaxed...wtf!? this what she doesn't want!!!

i spoke with her, she's really heartbroken for her dog. she has them seperated now.. while one is in the playroom, the other is upstairs on the 1st floor living area(she doesn't crate him). i'm pretty good at telling when someone is pulling my leg, but she is really in pain over this whole thing... mainly for her dog. it's effecting her children too, they are sad & now their friends aren't allowed in their home till the dog is gone. she runs w/ him like 5 miles a day, walks 3 times... & now she kinda gets bullied from the adults yelling she's crazy for still keeping that beast, her one neighbor said he'd take it out back & shoot it... she doesn't let him out to potty alone needless to say.

she said she's been really trying to place him, but as soon as she says he's bitten her daughter & she needed stitches people refuse. she kinda blames herself for getting an older dog w/ young children & getting the breed she did, before levon, she only had 2 beagles. but she said she did research the corso & knowledge from her sister who owns the presa.

i know no one who is looking, but certainly know no one or trust anyone capable of handling a dog like this... issues plus breed. i told her, with her permission of course, i belong to a wonderful forum w/ a beyond imaginable love for dogs, especialy big & bully breeds, i would be more than happy to post on here levon's desperate need for a new forever home.. ASAP!

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with the owner


one of her daughters


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Old 3rd February 2011, 02:52 PM
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Dawn - can you PM Shannon (Mom2Many) and see what she thinks?? She would be your best bet as far as advice on this one... how sad for all involved.
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Old 3rd February 2011, 04:07 PM
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I'm not great with dog body language but what's the thought on the second to last photo? Not the child (she's cute).
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Old 3rd February 2011, 04:22 PM
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I'm not great with dog body language but what's the thought on the second to last photo? Not the child (she's cute).
The dog is clearly uncomfortable with the hug. Some dogs just don't like hugging or having faces too close to them... it's not natural in dog body language... and is perceived to be a threat. I am confused as to why the owner allowed the children to get so close to the dog's face???
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Yeah, I saw that too..he doesnt look too happy there.

However, I will say a picture doesnt always tell the whole story. I have one of Lilah and Ivy where Ivy was actually pushing into Lilah to get hugs...she was instigating it. Then right when I snapped the pic a big gust of wind came up and Ivy turned to sniff it. The pic ended up looking like she was pulling away and really not happy.

But, I am a bit concerned that he bites while kissing or during? If he is that comfortable to be that close and in contact with the kids and they get just a bit too close and he bites, IMO that is not good.
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Old 3rd February 2011, 04:39 PM
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but the lil girl just doesn't listen & is feerless accourding to the mom & refuses to stay out of levon's face.
Okay, I'm rereading this and seeing that the mom does try to keep the kids out of the dog's face... just is unsuccessful.

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i asked about the rescue taking him back.. she said the lady has no room, she even said she'd see if there was another dog more compatible w/ her family she's adopt it to levon could go back, she said no.. if you have to put him down, just make sure it's at your vet's so he's more relaxed...wtf!? this what she doesn't want!!!
I'm guessing it's more about liability. Most rescues cannot/will not take a dog in that has a bite history because they open themselves up to be sued if they adopt the dog out and it bites again.

The dog looks comfortable in the pic where the adult owner has her face next to his, but uncomfortable with the child. It could be that he had negative experiences with a child in the past. I definitely would not trust him with any child hugging/kissing too close to his face.
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Old 3rd February 2011, 06:05 PM
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but I had the exact reaction to that photo.
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Yeah you can't always judge by a quick snapshot. My Marrok often looks unhappy or uncomfortable in pictures but it isn't the situation he's in, it's actually the camera he is wary of.

If mom knew that the dog wasn't comfie with the 5 year old and the 5 year old wasn't listening to the rules about the dog, why weren't they kept separate at all times?
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Oh dear I'm sorry to say that honestly I do not know of a single person or group that would take a dog, especially of these potential breeds, that has several bites of children on his record...

The rescue should be taking the dog back and either rehabbing the dog or euthanizing him if they cannot. I'm very sorry they are in this situation. He's a gorgeous guy, sadly beyond the realm of what I can help with, and unfortunately a huge liability for most rescue organizations.
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I MIGHT be able to take him if someone would work on his issues with me and get a transport.
He doesnt look pit at all he looks like a pure poorly bred corso, and i do have cats so it would have be figured out how he is with them.
I dont have kids but my sister is 11 so if i need a confident kid to help she could.
My bf might be taking his aunts dane x and moving in with me though so i need to figure that out.
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How sad, he is such a beautiful dog.
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I MIGHT be able to take him if someone would work on his issues with me and get a transport.
He doesnt look pit at all he looks like a pure poorly bred corso, and i do have cats so it would have be figured out how he is with them.
I dont have kids but my sister is 11 so if i need a confident kid to help she could.
My bf might be taking his aunts dane x and moving in with me though so i need to figure that out.
Ali hun as much as I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to help... aren't you still living with your parents? I thought you and your bf broke up and that's why you recently rehomed some dogs? Also pits and pit mixes are banned in Ontario so that might not be the best placement for him.
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thanks everyone.

i agree, & i explained the liability situation to her, but she totally understood & is aware.

she posted on her fb that the dog is going to live w/ a friend who has no children till she figures out what she needs to do.
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thanks everyone.

i agree, & i explained the liability situation to her, but she totally understood & is aware.

she posted on her fb that the dog is going to live w/ a friend who has no children till she figures out what she needs to do.
I'm so sorry I couldn't offer some other option, hon. Just being involved in rescue as long as I have and seeing what I have seen, this is a near impossible thing for the majority of people and rescue groups. We watch daily as dogs with no hint of such tendencies be euthanized, so taking a case such as this (coupled with the liability issues) makes it very hard.

I hope she finds another option. But she should also know that if there isn't, and she must make a decision, she will have the support and respect of most of us seasoned rescue folks. Sure wish it wasn't something we see often, but it is. to you and to this family.
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Ali hun as much as I appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to help... aren't you still living with your parents? I thought you and your bf broke up and that's why you recently rehomed some dogs? Also pits and pit mixes are banned in Ontario so that might not be the best placement for him.
yes, boy i havnt been on here forever. I moved to my own apartments (that is bigger then my house was) and my landlord doesnt care about size,breed or the amount. I didnt rehome any because i was living with my parents just my one dog stayed with my ex cause she was his dog.
This is not the old bf who would be living with me
I saw he might be pit mix but i dont see it thats the only reason i jumped in, izzy looks more pit then him.
Just suggesting it as a last chance for him.
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